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		<title>By: James Thayer</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2011/01/14/developing-your-voice-for-fiction-writing/#comment-15747</link>
		<author>James Thayer</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2011 20:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Authors most commonly tell their story in their own voices, their natural voices, which they find easiest.  In fact, many authors are unaware of their voices.  They have developed them over their own lives, and now they use them in their writing.   To do this, you, “Put down onto the paper the words you are hearing in your head—literally, Elizabeth Berg says.  Some authors, though, are skilled at stepping into a voice particularly suitable to their story.  Albert Zuckerman notes this about Stephen King.  “Stephen King’s reputation among those unfamiliar with his work seems to rest largely on his bizarre and otherworldly plots, yet he has a sublime gift for the cadences and nuances of small-town American idiomatic speech, rendering its gross and subtle tones and rhythms with a uniqueness and an artistry that, to me, rivals Mozart’s or Van Gogh’s.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Authors most commonly tell their story in their own voices, their natural voices, which they find easiest.  In fact, many authors are unaware of their voices.  They have developed them over their own lives, and now they use them in their writing.   To do this, you, “Put down onto the paper the words you are hearing in your head—literally, Elizabeth Berg says.  Some authors, though, are skilled at stepping into a voice particularly suitable to their story.  Albert Zuckerman notes this about Stephen King.  “Stephen King’s reputation among those unfamiliar with his work seems to rest largely on his bizarre and otherworldly plots, yet he has a sublime gift for the cadences and nuances of small-town American idiomatic speech, rendering its gross and subtle tones and rhythms with a uniqueness and an artistry that, to me, rivals Mozart’s or Van Gogh’s.”</p>
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		<title>By: Kim Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2011/01/14/developing-your-voice-for-fiction-writing/#comment-15760</link>
		<author>Kim Miller</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jan 2011 11:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2011/01/14/developing-your-voice-for-fiction-writing/#comment-15760</guid>
					<description>It seems to me that Fiona and Randy are using the word 'voice' to mean different things. 

Fiona speaks of using a particular voice for her character, she has to step into that character to write with that voice. The voice to Fiona will come from the personality, mood, and other characteristics of the narrator. 

Randy speaks of an author's voice being something that belongs to the author rather than the character. This might be because he has in mind an external narrator and the writing style of the author will show through differently.

If this is the case, maybe there are two questions regarding voice that we should look at.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that Fiona and Randy are using the word &#8216;voice&#8217; to mean different things. </p>
<p>Fiona speaks of using a particular voice for her character, she has to step into that character to write with that voice. The voice to Fiona will come from the personality, mood, and other characteristics of the narrator. </p>
<p>Randy speaks of an author&#8217;s voice being something that belongs to the author rather than the character. This might be because he has in mind an external narrator and the writing style of the author will show through differently.</p>
<p>If this is the case, maybe there are two questions regarding voice that we should look at.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2011/01/14/developing-your-voice-for-fiction-writing/#comment-15762</link>
		<author>Kim Miller</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jan 2011 11:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2011/01/14/developing-your-voice-for-fiction-writing/#comment-15762</guid>
					<description>Further thoughts --

Much of my writing is technical stuff, generally workplace related. This results in a stripped down, matter of fact, rather bare style of work. Technical writers have a voice or style, and some of them are easier to read than others, but most do not let their voice intrude.

My short fiction has a different voice, but people tell me it's recognisably me. They can 'almost hear me talking' while I'm telling the story. People do not say that to me about the technical stuff.

My novel uses the voice of the character (first person narrator), and he's very different from me in personality and presentation. I do not speak or write in the voice of that character in any other environment. People do not tell me that they can 'almost hear me talking' when they read the novel. Rather, they make comments about the character as if he's a real person in his own right - which, in their own head, he is.

Perhaps it's this experience that leads me to want to ask Fiona a few more questions about her original query.

However, there is one thing that I'd say to Fiona. The book has to stand on its own merit. It has its own requirements and makes its own demands of the author. Her choice of voice for the character should come from this understanding rather than from how much work it will take to write.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Further thoughts &#8211;</p>
<p>Much of my writing is technical stuff, generally workplace related. This results in a stripped down, matter of fact, rather bare style of work. Technical writers have a voice or style, and some of them are easier to read than others, but most do not let their voice intrude.</p>
<p>My short fiction has a different voice, but people tell me it&#8217;s recognisably me. They can &#8216;almost hear me talking&#8217; while I&#8217;m telling the story. People do not say that to me about the technical stuff.</p>
<p>My novel uses the voice of the character (first person narrator), and he&#8217;s very different from me in personality and presentation. I do not speak or write in the voice of that character in any other environment. People do not tell me that they can &#8216;almost hear me talking&#8217; when they read the novel. Rather, they make comments about the character as if he&#8217;s a real person in his own right - which, in their own head, he is.</p>
<p>Perhaps it&#8217;s this experience that leads me to want to ask Fiona a few more questions about her original query.</p>
<p>However, there is one thing that I&#8217;d say to Fiona. The book has to stand on its own merit. It has its own requirements and makes its own demands of the author. Her choice of voice for the character should come from this understanding rather than from how much work it will take to write.</p>
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		<title>By: Camille</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2011/01/14/developing-your-voice-for-fiction-writing/#comment-15770</link>
		<author>Camille</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jan 2011 17:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2011/01/14/developing-your-voice-for-fiction-writing/#comment-15770</guid>
					<description>I agree with Kim, I think Fiona is asking a different question. And giving each character a distinct, consistent voice is tricky. I think most of that takes developing depth to the characters and really knowing them, knowing more about them than you'll ever put on the page.

Randy, on a side note, please elaborate some time on what kills story, so I can stop doing it. :-)  

I fear my current novel is slowing down to funeral procession speed by over-plotting. I have a list of scenes I intended to include, but looking at the entire list, I see a 647 page, slow moving story in the works. I'm about to get really crazy and just toss the list and go SOTP. Don't dare me, I'm this close to doing it. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Kim, I think Fiona is asking a different question. And giving each character a distinct, consistent voice is tricky. I think most of that takes developing depth to the characters and really knowing them, knowing more about them than you&#8217;ll ever put on the page.</p>
<p>Randy, on a side note, please elaborate some time on what kills story, so I can stop doing it. <img src='http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>I fear my current novel is slowing down to funeral procession speed by over-plotting. I have a list of scenes I intended to include, but looking at the entire list, I see a 647 page, slow moving story in the works. I&#8217;m about to get really crazy and just toss the list and go SOTP. Don&#8217;t dare me, I&#8217;m this close to doing it. <img src='http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2011/01/14/developing-your-voice-for-fiction-writing/#comment-15771</link>
		<author>Andrew</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jan 2011 19:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Kim Miller - "However, there is one thing that I’d say to Fiona. The book has to stand on its own merit. It has its own requirements and makes its own demands of the author. Her choice of voice for the character should come from this understanding rather than from how much work it will take to write."

I think this makes a lot of sense. Whether it's a character voice or an author voice, each should work within the novel's demands. The novel is the most important persuasive factor. Yes, as an author you should have a unique voice, but that voice should be slightly different or masked depending on the novel.

I'm sure there are other ways, but like Randy says, your voice will most likely develop when you've 1) read enough and 2) experienced enough to find that you are drawn to a particular type of life ideology/perspective that naturally begets a familiar writing style.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kim Miller - &#8220;However, there is one thing that I’d say to Fiona. The book has to stand on its own merit. It has its own requirements and makes its own demands of the author. Her choice of voice for the character should come from this understanding rather than from how much work it will take to write.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think this makes a lot of sense. Whether it&#8217;s a character voice or an author voice, each should work within the novel&#8217;s demands. The novel is the most important persuasive factor. Yes, as an author you should have a unique voice, but that voice should be slightly different or masked depending on the novel.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure there are other ways, but like Randy says, your voice will most likely develop when you&#8217;ve 1) read enough and 2) experienced enough to find that you are drawn to a particular type of life ideology/perspective that naturally begets a familiar writing style.</p>
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		<title>By: newburydave</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2011/01/14/developing-your-voice-for-fiction-writing/#comment-15783</link>
		<author>newburydave</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jan 2011 03:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>RE: Our Authorial voice.

I set up and run an online Peer-to-Peer critique site for Speculative Fiction authors of a certain niche genre. A while back I set up an identity using my pen name as an ordinary user to check out some of the technical glitches we were encountering with the website. 

At the time I thought it would be a fun writing challenge to see if I could maintain that identity as a separate person, an evil twin if you will. I even wrote some simulated arguments between us. 

Well, it didn't work. Within less than a month the other authors in the group pegged my pen name persona as being me. The giveaway was my "writing voice", they said we were too much alike in our voice to be two separate people. 

My comment on "the same old thing" touched on my concept of what our "writing voice" is. In the realm of preaching there is a true aphorism, "a preached Gospel message is not the study of a few days or a week, it is the outflow of your life and character."

I've been a bi-vocational gospel minister for 30 years. In my secular career I became a trainer and teacher of various business disciplines. I have a lot more experience preaching, writing curricula, writing technical reports and training/teaching/presenting in industrial settings than I do writing fiction. 

In each of those disciplines those who knew me told me that they could identify something that I had written just by reading or hearing it. My authorial voice was distinctive.

In a sense I don't think it's correct to limit this concept of "voice" to just writing stories and books. It is the way that our personal life experience, our aspirations, our values, and our world outlook flow out of us into whatever we do in life by way of personal or professional expression.

There is a writing voice that goes with our general voice. As Randy mentioned some people call it personal style, but since style is a technical skill in the writing field I think it goes beyond style. It is your spirit, the way you parse the world of experiences and explain them, how you rationalize the reality you live within and how you deal with challenges. 

Okay, that's probably way too philosophical (hey my basic degree is in Philosophy, sorry); suffice it to say after many years of observing behavior and interacting with people industry, church and society I've come to believe that "our Voice" authorial or otherwise in an integral part of each one of us. 

I think the reason it takes time to develop our own "Authorial Voice" is that until we master the mechanics of writing style we aren't really expressing ourselves yet. It's a bit like learning to play a musical instrument, you can't express yourself in your music until you master the instrument and the type of music you wish to play.

So, Bottom Line: Fiona, don't worry about your "Authorial Voice", it's already in you. You merely have to master the writers trade well enough that you can let it out when you write. That will probably be when you can just sit down and write easily without having to struggle with grammar, style and structure. Then Fiona will be speaking in your prose, and your voice will be heard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: Our Authorial voice.</p>
<p>I set up and run an online Peer-to-Peer critique site for Speculative Fiction authors of a certain niche genre. A while back I set up an identity using my pen name as an ordinary user to check out some of the technical glitches we were encountering with the website. </p>
<p>At the time I thought it would be a fun writing challenge to see if I could maintain that identity as a separate person, an evil twin if you will. I even wrote some simulated arguments between us. </p>
<p>Well, it didn&#8217;t work. Within less than a month the other authors in the group pegged my pen name persona as being me. The giveaway was my &#8220;writing voice&#8221;, they said we were too much alike in our voice to be two separate people. </p>
<p>My comment on &#8220;the same old thing&#8221; touched on my concept of what our &#8220;writing voice&#8221; is. In the realm of preaching there is a true aphorism, &#8220;a preached Gospel message is not the study of a few days or a week, it is the outflow of your life and character.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been a bi-vocational gospel minister for 30 years. In my secular career I became a trainer and teacher of various business disciplines. I have a lot more experience preaching, writing curricula, writing technical reports and training/teaching/presenting in industrial settings than I do writing fiction. </p>
<p>In each of those disciplines those who knew me told me that they could identify something that I had written just by reading or hearing it. My authorial voice was distinctive.</p>
<p>In a sense I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s correct to limit this concept of &#8220;voice&#8221; to just writing stories and books. It is the way that our personal life experience, our aspirations, our values, and our world outlook flow out of us into whatever we do in life by way of personal or professional expression.</p>
<p>There is a writing voice that goes with our general voice. As Randy mentioned some people call it personal style, but since style is a technical skill in the writing field I think it goes beyond style. It is your spirit, the way you parse the world of experiences and explain them, how you rationalize the reality you live within and how you deal with challenges. </p>
<p>Okay, that&#8217;s probably way too philosophical (hey my basic degree is in Philosophy, sorry); suffice it to say after many years of observing behavior and interacting with people industry, church and society I&#8217;ve come to believe that &#8220;our Voice&#8221; authorial or otherwise in an integral part of each one of us. </p>
<p>I think the reason it takes time to develop our own &#8220;Authorial Voice&#8221; is that until we master the mechanics of writing style we aren&#8217;t really expressing ourselves yet. It&#8217;s a bit like learning to play a musical instrument, you can&#8217;t express yourself in your music until you master the instrument and the type of music you wish to play.</p>
<p>So, Bottom Line: Fiona, don&#8217;t worry about your &#8220;Authorial Voice&#8221;, it&#8217;s already in you. You merely have to master the writers trade well enough that you can let it out when you write. That will probably be when you can just sit down and write easily without having to struggle with grammar, style and structure. Then Fiona will be speaking in your prose, and your voice will be heard.</p>
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		<title>By: Christophe Desmecht</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2011/01/14/developing-your-voice-for-fiction-writing/#comment-15835</link>
		<author>Christophe Desmecht</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jan 2011 06:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I tend to agree with Kim.  I also read Fiona's comment about "voice" to be her main protagonist POV.  In general, the author's voice and a character's voice are two different things.  I would go so far as to say they are even two different concepts.
An author's voice is his storytelling style, his way to put words together.  Anyone who's read more than half a dozen fiction novels (from different authors) knows every author his his own style, his own voice.
A character's voice in a story is something different entirely and I believe has nothing necessarily to do with how the words are written down.  First of all, for a character to have a voice, you need to write from their POV, which can be third person POV as well as first person POV.  The way this character's voice then manifests itself is in how this POV makes the reader feel.  What does this character do, think, feel, how does she interpret things, react to things.  You can tell the reader what this character's thinking, but more than that, by certain actions, reflections, even observations, you can make the reader get inside this character's head.  Even if you're not directly quoting her, she's telling the story and giving it her own voice, on top of the author's voice.

Now my own voice is telling me I'm not explaining myself properly. Oh, well, time to go silence it with an overdose of monday morning coffee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tend to agree with Kim.  I also read Fiona&#8217;s comment about &#8220;voice&#8221; to be her main protagonist POV.  In general, the author&#8217;s voice and a character&#8217;s voice are two different things.  I would go so far as to say they are even two different concepts.<br />
An author&#8217;s voice is his storytelling style, his way to put words together.  Anyone who&#8217;s read more than half a dozen fiction novels (from different authors) knows every author his his own style, his own voice.<br />
A character&#8217;s voice in a story is something different entirely and I believe has nothing necessarily to do with how the words are written down.  First of all, for a character to have a voice, you need to write from their POV, which can be third person POV as well as first person POV.  The way this character&#8217;s voice then manifests itself is in how this POV makes the reader feel.  What does this character do, think, feel, how does she interpret things, react to things.  You can tell the reader what this character&#8217;s thinking, but more than that, by certain actions, reflections, even observations, you can make the reader get inside this character&#8217;s head.  Even if you&#8217;re not directly quoting her, she&#8217;s telling the story and giving it her own voice, on top of the author&#8217;s voice.</p>
<p>Now my own voice is telling me I&#8217;m not explaining myself properly. Oh, well, time to go silence it with an overdose of monday morning coffee.</p>
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		<title>By: caralinda Quinlan</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2011/01/14/developing-your-voice-for-fiction-writing/#comment-16759</link>
		<author>caralinda Quinlan</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Feb 2011 13:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Name for Cathy's book.
QUANTUM SILENCE</description>
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QUANTUM SILENCE</p>
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