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	<title>Comments on: On Writing a Novel With an Unreliable Narrator</title>
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		<title>By: Donna Hole</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2010/07/06/on-writing-a-novel-with-an-unreliable-narrator/#comment-10301</link>
		<author>Donna Hole</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 04:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Interesting question; and thanks for the informative answer.  One reason I don't write first person POV is because I'm unsure I can effectively have the reader "get it" when the MC is off his rocker without having to state it flat out.  Or when disclosing hints/facts to the reader that the narrator is supposed to miss. I'm with Jonathan; sublety is the intent.  But getting that across is difficult.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting question; and thanks for the informative answer.  One reason I don&#8217;t write first person POV is because I&#8217;m unsure I can effectively have the reader &#8220;get it&#8221; when the MC is off his rocker without having to state it flat out.  Or when disclosing hints/facts to the reader that the narrator is supposed to miss. I&#8217;m with Jonathan; sublety is the intent.  But getting that across is difficult.</p>
<p>&#8230;&#8230;.dhole</p>
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		<title>By: Kim Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2010/07/06/on-writing-a-novel-with-an-unreliable-narrator/#comment-10308</link>
		<author>Kim Miller</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 09:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2010/07/06/on-writing-a-novel-with-an-unreliable-narrator/#comment-10308</guid>
					<description>There's a bit of Jonathon's question that hints at the answer. Henry James didn't intend the narrator/governess in Turn of the Screw to be unreliable in herself. James wanted to create an air of mystery - does she see real ghosts or are they only figments of her imagination? 

One way it's a horror story, the other way it's a psychological thriller.

The importance thing is to understand the concern, and therefore the logic, of the narrator. In this case it was her overriding concern for the children, a concern that became obsessive, and in that state other people thought she was unreliable. But her logic was true to her own understanding.

This is the place for 'less is more.' If you push the character too far, you lose the reader. But if you merely hint, the reader will assemble the character in his/her own head in the manner you desire. You want the reader to trust the narrator, but that trust slowly becomes fragile. Then the reader gets to a point where they want to trust the narrator, but it's getting harder to do. Never take the reader beyond that point. As soon as you settle the inner argument in the reader's mind that the narrator is mad or bad, then you have lost the essential contact.

And in terms of Christopher in 'Curious Incident..' He is only logical as we would see it when he is doing logic puzzles, Most other logic is of his own invention, such as 'seeing three brown cars in one morning means it's a good day.' But it is this self-invented logic that controls most of his behaviour. Christopher draws emotional attachment from the reader nonetheless as we somehow get to understand his need for such logic so we keep our trust in him as narrator.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a bit of Jonathon&#8217;s question that hints at the answer. Henry James didn&#8217;t intend the narrator/governess in Turn of the Screw to be unreliable in herself. James wanted to create an air of mystery - does she see real ghosts or are they only figments of her imagination? </p>
<p>One way it&#8217;s a horror story, the other way it&#8217;s a psychological thriller.</p>
<p>The importance thing is to understand the concern, and therefore the logic, of the narrator. In this case it was her overriding concern for the children, a concern that became obsessive, and in that state other people thought she was unreliable. But her logic was true to her own understanding.</p>
<p>This is the place for &#8216;less is more.&#8217; If you push the character too far, you lose the reader. But if you merely hint, the reader will assemble the character in his/her own head in the manner you desire. You want the reader to trust the narrator, but that trust slowly becomes fragile. Then the reader gets to a point where they want to trust the narrator, but it&#8217;s getting harder to do. Never take the reader beyond that point. As soon as you settle the inner argument in the reader&#8217;s mind that the narrator is mad or bad, then you have lost the essential contact.</p>
<p>And in terms of Christopher in &#8216;Curious Incident..&#8217; He is only logical as we would see it when he is doing logic puzzles, Most other logic is of his own invention, such as &#8217;seeing three brown cars in one morning means it&#8217;s a good day.&#8217; But it is this self-invented logic that controls most of his behaviour. Christopher draws emotional attachment from the reader nonetheless as we somehow get to understand his need for such logic so we keep our trust in him as narrator.</p>
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		<title>By: Lois Hudson</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2010/07/06/on-writing-a-novel-with-an-unreliable-narrator/#comment-10315</link>
		<author>Lois Hudson</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 16:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Isn't it true that any narrator is unreliable, in that his/her perceptions are based on what they know, believe to be true, suspect to be true, and all the history of experiences, biases, prejudices,et al? And the more naturally and unobtrusively these can be related, the better. I think that's what makes "story" fascinating. 
Principle of the old "gossip" game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t it true that any narrator is unreliable, in that his/her perceptions are based on what they know, believe to be true, suspect to be true, and all the history of experiences, biases, prejudices,et al? And the more naturally and unobtrusively these can be related, the better. I think that&#8217;s what makes &#8220;story&#8221; fascinating.<br />
Principle of the old &#8220;gossip&#8221; game.</p>
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		<title>By: LeeAnn Bonds</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2010/07/06/on-writing-a-novel-with-an-unreliable-narrator/#comment-10322</link>
		<author>LeeAnn Bonds</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 18:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2010/07/06/on-writing-a-novel-with-an-unreliable-narrator/#comment-10322</guid>
					<description>The story that leaps to my mind with the mention of an unreliable narrator is Life of Pi by Yann Martel. I thought Pi WAS reliable, but then, maybe not. Is he, or isn't he? I read the book two or three years ago and am still debating with myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The story that leaps to my mind with the mention of an unreliable narrator is Life of Pi by Yann Martel. I thought Pi WAS reliable, but then, maybe not. Is he, or isn&#8217;t he? I read the book two or three years ago and am still debating with myself.</p>
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