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	<title>Comments on: MRUs Lesson 5</title>
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		<title>By: Carrie Neuman</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/10/03/mrus-lesson-5/#comment-6621</link>
		<author>Carrie Neuman</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 11:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Randy, I know you usually set the Motivations and Reactions off in their own paragraphs, but am I right in thinking the example works because there's only a sentence or two of each?

Randy sez: The example works because the Motivations and Reactions are actually separate entities, so that it's POSSIBLE to color-code them as I did. Compare that to the Jane Austen example, where no color-coding is possible. I think the MRUs would be slightly clearer if they were each broken out into a separate paragraph, but very few published authors do this. I believe it's better to use separate paragraphs, for the same reason that dialogue reads better when each speaker gets a new paragraph--it's just clearer. But this is not yet the standard. When I have converted the whole world to using MRUs, then maybe it'll be the standard, but it hasn't happened yet. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Randy, I know you usually set the Motivations and Reactions off in their own paragraphs, but am I right in thinking the example works because there&#8217;s only a sentence or two of each?</p>
<p>Randy sez: The example works because the Motivations and Reactions are actually separate entities, so that it&#8217;s POSSIBLE to color-code them as I did. Compare that to the Jane Austen example, where no color-coding is possible. I think the MRUs would be slightly clearer if they were each broken out into a separate paragraph, but very few published authors do this. I believe it&#8217;s better to use separate paragraphs, for the same reason that dialogue reads better when each speaker gets a new paragraph&#8211;it&#8217;s just clearer. But this is not yet the standard. When I have converted the whole world to using MRUs, then maybe it&#8217;ll be the standard, but it hasn&#8217;t happened yet. <img src='http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Jessie</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/10/03/mrus-lesson-5/#comment-6622</link>
		<author>Jessie</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 13:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Thanks Randy! This is helpful since a couple of crits have told me I'm 'telling" too much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Randy! This is helpful since a couple of crits have told me I&#8217;m &#8216;telling&#8221; too much.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/10/03/mrus-lesson-5/#comment-6623</link>
		<author>Kathryn</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 15:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>See, this is where I get confused. When do/don't you paragraph motivation from reaction?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See, this is where I get confused. When do/don&#8217;t you paragraph motivation from reaction?</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/10/03/mrus-lesson-5/#comment-6624</link>
		<author>Daniel Smith</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 15:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Carrie, I had the same thought. It seems to work like this though. Is that maybe because the camel isn't a potential POV character and so the entire POV is implied to be from the perspective of the man? Or possibly because the camel isn't reactive in the same sense? He actually doesn't react to the man even though it has the MRU structure. Just wondering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carrie, I had the same thought. It seems to work like this though. Is that maybe because the camel isn&#8217;t a potential POV character and so the entire POV is implied to be from the perspective of the man? Or possibly because the camel isn&#8217;t reactive in the same sense? He actually doesn&#8217;t react to the man even though it has the MRU structure. Just wondering.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam R</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/10/03/mrus-lesson-5/#comment-6626</link>
		<author>Sam R</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 00:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Did the man kick the camel three or four times in one sharp burst, or did he step back each time, his frustration becoming more intense at each failure?  The “finally” hints at the latter.  I’m wondering if putting all the kicks into one phrase (“three or four times”) has in effect turned showing into telling.  Picking up on Randy's slo-mo idea, could Ken Follett have made his scene more effective if he'd slowed down those three or four kicks - showing them one by one along with the man's increasing exasperation?  

Also, while I could empathise with the Longbourn party's discomfort at overstaying their welcome (in this example we seem to be given the motivations, perhaps Jane Austen expected her readers to provide the emotional reactions) I felt that the lack of the man's emotional reaction to the obstinacy of his camel made the Follett extract feel flat in comparison.  I was left wondering whether his stabbing the camel was an old Bedouin technique to get camels moving (potentially a good idea, and heightening the tension because it didn’t work), or whether it was an act of anger/frustration further complicating his position (a bad idea, but again a good authorial device). Makes a big difference to how we react.  Could Follett have involved/informed us more by showing the man's internal responses (reactions) that drove his overt actions of tugging, kicking and stabbing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did the man kick the camel three or four times in one sharp burst, or did he step back each time, his frustration becoming more intense at each failure?  The “finally” hints at the latter.  I’m wondering if putting all the kicks into one phrase (“three or four times”) has in effect turned showing into telling.  Picking up on Randy&#8217;s slo-mo idea, could Ken Follett have made his scene more effective if he&#8217;d slowed down those three or four kicks - showing them one by one along with the man&#8217;s increasing exasperation?  </p>
<p>Also, while I could empathise with the Longbourn party&#8217;s discomfort at overstaying their welcome (in this example we seem to be given the motivations, perhaps Jane Austen expected her readers to provide the emotional reactions) I felt that the lack of the man&#8217;s emotional reaction to the obstinacy of his camel made the Follett extract feel flat in comparison.  I was left wondering whether his stabbing the camel was an old Bedouin technique to get camels moving (potentially a good idea, and heightening the tension because it didn’t work), or whether it was an act of anger/frustration further complicating his position (a bad idea, but again a good authorial device). Makes a big difference to how we react.  Could Follett have involved/informed us more by showing the man&#8217;s internal responses (reactions) that drove his overt actions of tugging, kicking and stabbing?</p>
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		<title>By: PatriciaW</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/10/03/mrus-lesson-5/#comment-6635</link>
		<author>PatriciaW</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 04:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Doesn't "but he would not get up" serve as both reaction of the camel and motivation for the man?  Obviously he wants the camel to move.  The camel doesn't move so he goes around and kicks it.  Seems like a good economy of words to serve two purposes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesn&#8217;t &#8220;but he would not get up&#8221; serve as both reaction of the camel and motivation for the man?  Obviously he wants the camel to move.  The camel doesn&#8217;t move so he goes around and kicks it.  Seems like a good economy of words to serve two purposes.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Goodyear</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/10/03/mrus-lesson-5/#comment-6636</link>
		<author>Mark Goodyear</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 13:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I love Jane Austen. But you make a good point that people should stop pining about how wonderful she and Dickens and Shelley were, and write for the audience of the 21st century.

She didn't have to show as much because she didn't have to compete with movies. I'm guessing her main competition was nonfiction and personal correspondence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love Jane Austen. But you make a good point that people should stop pining about how wonderful she and Dickens and Shelley were, and write for the audience of the 21st century.</p>
<p>She didn&#8217;t have to show as much because she didn&#8217;t have to compete with movies. I&#8217;m guessing her main competition was nonfiction and personal correspondence.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristi Holl</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/10/03/mrus-lesson-5/#comment-6638</link>
		<author>Kristi Holl</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'm another Jane Austen fan (and anyone who can write like her), but I confess we're in the minority. I wish there were more writers like her though! With the fast pace we live at, it's such a joy to relax at night with something languid.  8-) Thanks for these writing lessons, Randy. You have a sharp editing eye.
&lt;a href="http://kristiholl.com/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Kristi Holl&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href="http://writers-first-aid.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Writer's First Aid blog&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m another Jane Austen fan (and anyone who can write like her), but I confess we&#8217;re in the minority. I wish there were more writers like her though! With the fast pace we live at, it&#8217;s such a joy to relax at night with something languid.  <img src='http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8-)' class='wp-smiley' /> Thanks for these writing lessons, Randy. You have a sharp editing eye.<br />
<a href="http://kristiholl.com/" rel="nofollow">Kristi Holl</a><br />
<a href="http://writers-first-aid.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Writer&#8217;s First Aid blog</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ann Isik</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/10/03/mrus-lesson-5/#comment-6639</link>
		<author>Ann Isik</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 18:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Randy will put me right on this if I've got it wrong but I was listening to Fiction 201 on my iPod earlier today and I believe he said that a new paragraph is introduced every time the POV character acts. 

I believe I have offended by mentioning Austen and Dickens and the Brontes (not Shelley)!  My apologies!  I won't do it again!  I'll keep my mouth firmly shut from now on!

Ann</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Randy will put me right on this if I&#8217;ve got it wrong but I was listening to Fiction 201 on my iPod earlier today and I believe he said that a new paragraph is introduced every time the POV character acts. </p>
<p>I believe I have offended by mentioning Austen and Dickens and the Brontes (not Shelley)!  My apologies!  I won&#8217;t do it again!  I&#8217;ll keep my mouth firmly shut from now on!</p>
<p>Ann</p>
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		<title>By: Bonnie</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/10/03/mrus-lesson-5/#comment-6664</link>
		<author>Bonnie</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 03:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'm also a hardcore Jane Austen fan, though I agree with Randy that writers today can't write like she did.  However, I would point out his advice to study the dialogue that she and other 18th century authors wrote.  Some of the spars between Lizzie and Mr. Darcy are brilliant.  Her characterization is also excellent--you never forget her characters or get them mixed up with others (which you definately can't say about some modern authors who may have mastered the showing not telling).  So while we may adapat our style for the modern reader who needs faster-paced action, we can still learn a lot from Austen and her contemporaries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m also a hardcore Jane Austen fan, though I agree with Randy that writers today can&#8217;t write like she did.  However, I would point out his advice to study the dialogue that she and other 18th century authors wrote.  Some of the spars between Lizzie and Mr. Darcy are brilliant.  Her characterization is also excellent&#8211;you never forget her characters or get them mixed up with others (which you definately can&#8217;t say about some modern authors who may have mastered the showing not telling).  So while we may adapat our style for the modern reader who needs faster-paced action, we can still learn a lot from Austen and her contemporaries.</p>
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