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		<title>By: Amy VR</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/09/29/mrus-lesson-3/#comment-6581</link>
		<author>Amy VR</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 01:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Excellent lesson as always, Randy.  Looking forward to tomorrow!</description>
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		<title>By: Camille</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/09/29/mrus-lesson-3/#comment-6582</link>
		<author>Camille</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 04:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Great! 

A question in the area I stumble on: when to separate action (as in body motions, not Bruce Willis films) from dialogue when it's coming from the same person? And when to keep them in the same paragraph? It sometimes looks odd to me to see these combined in a paragraph. For example, told in Emily's pov:

= = = = = = =
But he didn’t say anything else. Emily wanted to know more, but couldn’t bring herself to ask.
 
Ian sighed. “Katy attended a ministry training institute in Hawaii while I . . . during our engagement.” The last word hissed out through his teeth. Ian grabbed a bottle of water, twisted off the cap and took a swig. “Janet was there doing a series of lectures and they became good friends. I didn’t meet her until later.” He took another drink, swallowed with a loud gulp. “At Katy’s funeral.” 

They drove in silence for several more miles... 
= = = = = = = = =

Should the paragraph be broken up? Emily is observing Ian, so the only 'reaction' would be her awareness of his hissed word. The rest is motivation - I think? I'm confused.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great! </p>
<p>A question in the area I stumble on: when to separate action (as in body motions, not Bruce Willis films) from dialogue when it&#8217;s coming from the same person? And when to keep them in the same paragraph? It sometimes looks odd to me to see these combined in a paragraph. For example, told in Emily&#8217;s pov:</p>
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But he didn’t say anything else. Emily wanted to know more, but couldn’t bring herself to ask.</p>
<p>Ian sighed. “Katy attended a ministry training institute in Hawaii while I . . . during our engagement.” The last word hissed out through his teeth. Ian grabbed a bottle of water, twisted off the cap and took a swig. “Janet was there doing a series of lectures and they became good friends. I didn’t meet her until later.” He took another drink, swallowed with a loud gulp. “At Katy’s funeral.” </p>
<p>They drove in silence for several more miles&#8230;<br />
= = = = = = = = =</p>
<p>Should the paragraph be broken up? Emily is observing Ian, so the only &#8216;reaction&#8217; would be her awareness of his hissed word. The rest is motivation - I think? I&#8217;m confused.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerhi Janse van Vuuren</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/09/29/mrus-lesson-3/#comment-6583</link>
		<author>Gerhi Janse van Vuuren</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I do not have a problem with action and dialogue in one paragraph as Camille has it above. Emily's reaction to Ian's hissing warrants at least an emotional response. Even if she does "nothing" she would "sit stunned", "gape at Ian in awe" or "scratch her ear in irritation".

Her reaction would break up and liven up Ian's monologue.

I must say I only heard about MRU's a year ago and it makes writing so much easier. This lecture series just adds so much to that ease.

Thanks Randy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not have a problem with action and dialogue in one paragraph as Camille has it above. Emily&#8217;s reaction to Ian&#8217;s hissing warrants at least an emotional response. Even if she does &#8220;nothing&#8221; she would &#8220;sit stunned&#8221;, &#8220;gape at Ian in awe&#8221; or &#8220;scratch her ear in irritation&#8221;.</p>
<p>Her reaction would break up and liven up Ian&#8217;s monologue.</p>
<p>I must say I only heard about MRU&#8217;s a year ago and it makes writing so much easier. This lecture series just adds so much to that ease.</p>
<p>Thanks Randy</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Goodyear</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/09/29/mrus-lesson-3/#comment-6584</link>
		<author>Mark Goodyear</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/09/29/mrus-lesson-3/#comment-6584</guid>
					<description>This is great stuff, Randy. Having the examples and the color coding really helps.

For me, the second fight wasn't about action so much as interior monologue. Granted, that second sentence is brutally complex.

But the few sentences of Tom's voice that follow make the scene worth it. Instead of blow by blow action, that scene becomes the whole fight as a motivation, followed by Tom's interior monologue as the reaction.

That doesn't mean the scene works as well as the first one, but maybe it's not intended to be an action scene in the same way?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is great stuff, Randy. Having the examples and the color coding really helps.</p>
<p>For me, the second fight wasn&#8217;t about action so much as interior monologue. Granted, that second sentence is brutally complex.</p>
<p>But the few sentences of Tom&#8217;s voice that follow make the scene worth it. Instead of blow by blow action, that scene becomes the whole fight as a motivation, followed by Tom&#8217;s interior monologue as the reaction.</p>
<p>That doesn&#8217;t mean the scene works as well as the first one, but maybe it&#8217;s not intended to be an action scene in the same way?</p>
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		<title>By: PatriciaW</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/09/29/mrus-lesson-3/#comment-6586</link>
		<author>PatriciaW</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 18:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Again I agree with Mark.  I think the reason the second fight scene was told as it was was to focus less on the action and more on the internal.

So it depends on what the author is emphasing at that point.  Not all action or dialogue should be shown, although it certainly should be shown much more than told.

As far as Camille's question, as long as the action and dialogue are for the same person, they can be in the same paragraph.  I hate when one person speaks and another acts with no paragraph breaks.  Throws me off as a reader.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again I agree with Mark.  I think the reason the second fight scene was told as it was was to focus less on the action and more on the internal.</p>
<p>So it depends on what the author is emphasing at that point.  Not all action or dialogue should be shown, although it certainly should be shown much more than told.</p>
<p>As far as Camille&#8217;s question, as long as the action and dialogue are for the same person, they can be in the same paragraph.  I hate when one person speaks and another acts with no paragraph breaks.  Throws me off as a reader.</p>
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		<title>By: Davalynn</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/09/29/mrus-lesson-3/#comment-6587</link>
		<author>Davalynn</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 22:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>On Camille's second graph, I would break it again after the comment about hissing out the word, and start a new graph with Ian grabbing a bottle of water. Right? Wrong? Dunno. Curious about your take, Randy. And would you follow with his next comment in the same graph, or start a new one? Hmmmm. 

Thanks for offering an example, Camille.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Camille&#8217;s second graph, I would break it again after the comment about hissing out the word, and start a new graph with Ian grabbing a bottle of water. Right? Wrong? Dunno. Curious about your take, Randy. And would you follow with his next comment in the same graph, or start a new one? Hmmmm. </p>
<p>Thanks for offering an example, Camille.</p>
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		<title>By: Camille</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/09/29/mrus-lesson-3/#comment-6588</link>
		<author>Camille</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 00:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Gerhi - What? Driving down the road isn't a gripping reaction? You're quite right. I saw that after I posted and groaned. REACTION follows motivation. Duh. I'll probably use something like:

[He took another drink, swallowed with a loud gulp. “At Katy’s funeral.” 

&lt;i&gt;Funeral?&lt;/i&gt; The steely edge in his voice sent a chill through her, bringing tears to her eyes.] 

There's an eploding helicopter scene shortly following. I'm making a note to have her scream and duck for cover &lt;i&gt;after&lt;/i&gt; it blows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gerhi - What? Driving down the road isn&#8217;t a gripping reaction? You&#8217;re quite right. I saw that after I posted and groaned. REACTION follows motivation. Duh. I&#8217;ll probably use something like:</p>
<p>[He took another drink, swallowed with a loud gulp. “At Katy’s funeral.” </p>
<p><i>Funeral?</i> The steely edge in his voice sent a chill through her, bringing tears to her eyes.] </p>
<p>There&#8217;s an eploding helicopter scene shortly following. I&#8217;m making a note to have her scream and duck for cover <i>after</i> it blows.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann Isik</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/09/29/mrus-lesson-3/#comment-6592</link>
		<author>Ann Isik</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 15:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Thanks for this Randy.  

I like that you used boxing scenes as it made me realise that every scene in every kind of novel is about 'boxing'.  

The characters are 'in the ring' (the setting) together. 

They are 'circling' each other.  

One hits out (which can mean deciding not to hit out).
There is a reaction.

I've yet to read a published novel where two characters got together in a scene to be nice to each other - except at the very end, depending. 

Even romance is about boxing.  The greatest 'romance' of all time (in my not very humble opinion) is Jane Eyre. Both Jane and Rochester are described as 'ugly' in looks.  The encounters between Jane and Rochester are electrifyingly sexy - and they never so much as touch each other! I'm trying to do the same with the two main characters in my own wip.  It's not easy, but from now on, when an of my characters go 'tame', I'll think 'boxing ring' (and maybe 'Retribution', page 54).

Sorry about 'electrifyingly'.

Ann</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this Randy.  </p>
<p>I like that you used boxing scenes as it made me realise that every scene in every kind of novel is about &#8216;boxing&#8217;.  </p>
<p>The characters are &#8216;in the ring&#8217; (the setting) together. </p>
<p>They are &#8216;circling&#8217; each other.  </p>
<p>One hits out (which can mean deciding not to hit out).<br />
There is a reaction.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve yet to read a published novel where two characters got together in a scene to be nice to each other - except at the very end, depending. </p>
<p>Even romance is about boxing.  The greatest &#8216;romance&#8217; of all time (in my not very humble opinion) is Jane Eyre. Both Jane and Rochester are described as &#8216;ugly&#8217; in looks.  The encounters between Jane and Rochester are electrifyingly sexy - and they never so much as touch each other! I&#8217;m trying to do the same with the two main characters in my own wip.  It&#8217;s not easy, but from now on, when an of my characters go &#8216;tame&#8217;, I&#8217;ll think &#8216;boxing ring&#8217; (and maybe &#8216;Retribution&#8217;, page 54).</p>
<p>Sorry about &#8216;electrifyingly&#8217;.</p>
<p>Ann</p>
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