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	<title>Comments on: Wrapping Up On Agents and Editors</title>
	<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/09/05/wrapping-up-on-agents-and-editors/</link>
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		<title>By: Mary DeMuth</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/09/05/wrapping-up-on-agents-and-editors/#comment-6462</link>
		<author>Mary DeMuth</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 01:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/09/05/wrapping-up-on-agents-and-editors/#comment-6462</guid>
					<description>I wanted to respond to someone not living in the US. My first four books released in the US when I lived in France. But I still flew back, doing publicity, meeting with folks, doing media interviews. It was important for my publishers to see me being visible in the US.

I would think it would be the same if you are trying to acquire an agent. Start saving your money now for a trip to a US conference. Work on your craft in the meantime, polishing, polishing, polishing. Do what Randy says and learn the industry like the back of your hand. Then, when you take that trip, you'll be ahead of the game.

Warmly
Mary
http://www.wannabepublished.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wanted to respond to someone not living in the US. My first four books released in the US when I lived in France. But I still flew back, doing publicity, meeting with folks, doing media interviews. It was important for my publishers to see me being visible in the US.</p>
<p>I would think it would be the same if you are trying to acquire an agent. Start saving your money now for a trip to a US conference. Work on your craft in the meantime, polishing, polishing, polishing. Do what Randy says and learn the industry like the back of your hand. Then, when you take that trip, you&#8217;ll be ahead of the game.</p>
<p>Warmly<br />
Mary<br />
<a href="http://www.wannabepublished.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.wannabepublished.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mary DeMuth</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/09/05/wrapping-up-on-agents-and-editors/#comment-6463</link>
		<author>Mary DeMuth</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 01:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/09/05/wrapping-up-on-agents-and-editors/#comment-6463</guid>
					<description>From my perspective as a mentor to writers, I see the biggest problem being something Randy highlighted here. Most beginning novelists start their books far too early, mired in backstory. I often flip through pages and find the actual beginning on page 17 or so. 

A series about how to start a novel with a bang instead of backstory would be a great discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From my perspective as a mentor to writers, I see the biggest problem being something Randy highlighted here. Most beginning novelists start their books far too early, mired in backstory. I often flip through pages and find the actual beginning on page 17 or so. </p>
<p>A series about how to start a novel with a bang instead of backstory would be a great discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: Katie Hart</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/09/05/wrapping-up-on-agents-and-editors/#comment-6464</link>
		<author>Katie Hart</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 02:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/09/05/wrapping-up-on-agents-and-editors/#comment-6464</guid>
					<description>One of my biggest problems is writing a scene so readers can visualize it in their minds. My characters seem to stand on a blank stage, occasionally coming across pieces of furniture. And they move around awkwardly, shoes squeaking across the floor as I push them where they need to be for the scene. I know I need to incorporate all the senses, but for familiar locations the characters simply don't notice enough consciously for me to make the setting come alive. I also want to avoid "interior decorator" mode, where I describe the position of every major object in the room.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of my biggest problems is writing a scene so readers can visualize it in their minds. My characters seem to stand on a blank stage, occasionally coming across pieces of furniture. And they move around awkwardly, shoes squeaking across the floor as I push them where they need to be for the scene. I know I need to incorporate all the senses, but for familiar locations the characters simply don&#8217;t notice enough consciously for me to make the setting come alive. I also want to avoid &#8220;interior decorator&#8221; mode, where I describe the position of every major object in the room.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/09/05/wrapping-up-on-agents-and-editors/#comment-6465</link>
		<author>Daniel Smith</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 02:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/09/05/wrapping-up-on-agents-and-editors/#comment-6465</guid>
					<description>How about an article on how to outline a book before writing?

I remember reading something on your site somewhere that said all a writer needs is a good word processor and spreadsheet program and to dispense with the expensive, so-called writing software that's on the market.

So, how do you begin this process? I have some ideas that I want to flesh out. (OK. They're driving me absolutely bananas!) I can't get my head around them in any kind of tangible form or them out of my head. I've tried note cards. I've used up I don't know how many legal pads. I've got a copy of JKR's ouline for the first half of HP5 and I know that's the sort of thing I need. But how to go about it? How do I break up the various characters/groups/plot points/etcetera so that they fit into an outline? Is there an order to the madness that helps make it all fit together somehow?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about an article on how to outline a book before writing?</p>
<p>I remember reading something on your site somewhere that said all a writer needs is a good word processor and spreadsheet program and to dispense with the expensive, so-called writing software that&#8217;s on the market.</p>
<p>So, how do you begin this process? I have some ideas that I want to flesh out. (OK. They&#8217;re driving me absolutely bananas!) I can&#8217;t get my head around them in any kind of tangible form or them out of my head. I&#8217;ve tried note cards. I&#8217;ve used up I don&#8217;t know how many legal pads. I&#8217;ve got a copy of JKR&#8217;s ouline for the first half of HP5 and I know that&#8217;s the sort of thing I need. But how to go about it? How do I break up the various characters/groups/plot points/etcetera so that they fit into an outline? Is there an order to the madness that helps make it all fit together somehow?</p>
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		<title>By: Amy VR</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/09/05/wrapping-up-on-agents-and-editors/#comment-6466</link>
		<author>Amy VR</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 04:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/09/05/wrapping-up-on-agents-and-editors/#comment-6466</guid>
					<description>Thanks for all the advice and insight on agents.  I hope to need the info someday!

My biggest craft-related problem (today) is keeping all the "science" straight.  My story is set 60+ years in the future and takes place on the moon. I know I need to invent "future history" but I still want to the science of it all to be plausible.  This story is for kids ages 8 to 12 so I can't get overally technical but it still needs to be "real."  How much leeway with the science do I really have here?  Can I take current theory on moon colonies, use of lunar resources, etc and twist them to make it work for my plot?  Is it ok for a scientist to read my book and say "that could never happen because..." or do I, as the author, have permission to stretch reality here?  I wouldn't ask this question if I were talking about characters or location... but SCIENCE just doesn't seem like something I can fool around with very much!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all the advice and insight on agents.  I hope to need the info someday!</p>
<p>My biggest craft-related problem (today) is keeping all the &#8220;science&#8221; straight.  My story is set 60+ years in the future and takes place on the moon. I know I need to invent &#8220;future history&#8221; but I still want to the science of it all to be plausible.  This story is for kids ages 8 to 12 so I can&#8217;t get overally technical but it still needs to be &#8220;real.&#8221;  How much leeway with the science do I really have here?  Can I take current theory on moon colonies, use of lunar resources, etc and twist them to make it work for my plot?  Is it ok for a scientist to read my book and say &#8220;that could never happen because&#8230;&#8221; or do I, as the author, have permission to stretch reality here?  I wouldn&#8217;t ask this question if I were talking about characters or location&#8230; but SCIENCE just doesn&#8217;t seem like something I can fool around with very much!</p>
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		<title>By: John Harper</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/09/05/wrapping-up-on-agents-and-editors/#comment-6467</link>
		<author>John Harper</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 07:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/09/05/wrapping-up-on-agents-and-editors/#comment-6467</guid>
					<description>A craftey issue of mine is detail.  I don't like over detailing things, but this leads to what I believe is under detailing.  Quite often my characters are in tense situations and its all speed and action and no time to really slip in details of the environment etc.  At least that is how it feels to me.  How do you deal with that in your novels?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A craftey issue of mine is detail.  I don&#8217;t like over detailing things, but this leads to what I believe is under detailing.  Quite often my characters are in tense situations and its all speed and action and no time to really slip in details of the environment etc.  At least that is how it feels to me.  How do you deal with that in your novels?</p>
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		<title>By: Camille</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/09/05/wrapping-up-on-agents-and-editors/#comment-6468</link>
		<author>Camille</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 15:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/09/05/wrapping-up-on-agents-and-editors/#comment-6468</guid>
					<description>I know narrative summary can be effective when done right. How do you know when to use it, and what are some ways to do it beautifully? I know every scene should have a GCM and create a PEE - so if the events I need to show aren't enough to warrant a scene, what are some ways to slip them into a summary?

I've also heard that a scene is also necessary if it moves the story forward, reveals more of the character, gives important information to the plot. But I probably should not be stringing too many scenes together which don't pack some GCM or PEE, right?

Maybe it's a pacing issue? I have a 48 hr period of time in the middle of my 360 page novel that spans 90 pages. Is that a problem?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know narrative summary can be effective when done right. How do you know when to use it, and what are some ways to do it beautifully? I know every scene should have a GCM and create a PEE - so if the events I need to show aren&#8217;t enough to warrant a scene, what are some ways to slip them into a summary?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also heard that a scene is also necessary if it moves the story forward, reveals more of the character, gives important information to the plot. But I probably should not be stringing too many scenes together which don&#8217;t pack some GCM or PEE, right?</p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s a pacing issue? I have a 48 hr period of time in the middle of my 360 page novel that spans 90 pages. Is that a problem?</p>
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		<title>By: Lois Hudson</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/09/05/wrapping-up-on-agents-and-editors/#comment-6469</link>
		<author>Lois Hudson</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 15:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/09/05/wrapping-up-on-agents-and-editors/#comment-6469</guid>
					<description>Mary DeMuth's suggestion appeals to me - learning how to get the backstory out of the beginning. I've tossed a whole first chapter about a woman whose character greatly influences the  entire story, but who died before the current action begins.
Much as I loved her and the chapter about her, I've said goodby, but need to show places where her influence impacts the story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary DeMuth&#8217;s suggestion appeals to me - learning how to get the backstory out of the beginning. I&#8217;ve tossed a whole first chapter about a woman whose character greatly influences the  entire story, but who died before the current action begins.<br />
Much as I loved her and the chapter about her, I&#8217;ve said goodby, but need to show places where her influence impacts the story.</p>
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		<title>By: Martha Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/09/05/wrapping-up-on-agents-and-editors/#comment-6470</link>
		<author>Martha Miller</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 15:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/09/05/wrapping-up-on-agents-and-editors/#comment-6470</guid>
					<description>I'd like a discussion on the importance of the author stating the protagonist's goal for the story at the beginning of that story/novel. Doesn't making the goal clear up front give the story forward momentum and spine? Or am I barking up the wrong tree?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like a discussion on the importance of the author stating the protagonist&#8217;s goal for the story at the beginning of that story/novel. Doesn&#8217;t making the goal clear up front give the story forward momentum and spine? Or am I barking up the wrong tree?</p>
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		<title>By: Lois Hudson</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/09/05/wrapping-up-on-agents-and-editors/#comment-6471</link>
		<author>Lois Hudson</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 15:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/09/05/wrapping-up-on-agents-and-editors/#comment-6471</guid>
					<description>Camille's question about pacing is also intriguing. Instead of 48 hours, my issue is needing to jump several years at a time. Is a date at the beginning of each chapter enough to cover that? In order to keep myself moving, I've simply dated and written each chapter as it develops, without worrying about transitions. On later readings I can go back and insert transitions if they seem necessary to clarity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Camille&#8217;s question about pacing is also intriguing. Instead of 48 hours, my issue is needing to jump several years at a time. Is a date at the beginning of each chapter enough to cover that? In order to keep myself moving, I&#8217;ve simply dated and written each chapter as it develops, without worrying about transitions. On later readings I can go back and insert transitions if they seem necessary to clarity.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Goodyear</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/09/05/wrapping-up-on-agents-and-editors/#comment-6473</link>
		<author>Mark Goodyear</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 19:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/09/05/wrapping-up-on-agents-and-editors/#comment-6473</guid>
					<description>Your advice on researching agents is really helpful here, Randy. It's only easier than ever... if we know where to look. Thanks for the tips you gave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your advice on researching agents is really helpful here, Randy. It&#8217;s only easier than ever&#8230; if we know where to look. Thanks for the tips you gave.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Goodyear</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/09/05/wrapping-up-on-agents-and-editors/#comment-6474</link>
		<author>Mark Goodyear</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 19:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/09/05/wrapping-up-on-agents-and-editors/#comment-6474</guid>
					<description>As for your question at the end. I'm interested in how you sort through needed revisions. Once the draft is done, what's a good method for ironing out all the inconsistencies?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for your question at the end. I&#8217;m interested in how you sort through needed revisions. Once the draft is done, what&#8217;s a good method for ironing out all the inconsistencies?</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/09/05/wrapping-up-on-agents-and-editors/#comment-6475</link>
		<author>Karen</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 20:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/09/05/wrapping-up-on-agents-and-editors/#comment-6475</guid>
					<description>Well, as a freshman, I like pretty much all the ideas so far!

Thanks Randy for answering my question - I really don't know how you manage to answer us all. Thanks Mary for your input too. That's my plan, now let's see if I can pull it off!

:) Karen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, as a freshman, I like pretty much all the ideas so far!</p>
<p>Thanks Randy for answering my question - I really don&#8217;t know how you manage to answer us all. Thanks Mary for your input too. That&#8217;s my plan, now let&#8217;s see if I can pull it off!</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> Karen</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara Witcher</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/09/05/wrapping-up-on-agents-and-editors/#comment-6476</link>
		<author>Barbara Witcher</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 21:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/09/05/wrapping-up-on-agents-and-editors/#comment-6476</guid>
					<description>You need suggestions for fuether training....how much description of places and people for a novel....do you give them little bits and pieces or devote one or two paragraphs to the description and then that is it...especially as it pertains to place? 
Also can you give me a definition of the following: "cardboard" character and "three dimensional character? I have been accused of creating the first and editors want the latter but no one has been able to tell me what exactly they are so I know to either avoid them or create them...thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You need suggestions for fuether training&#8230;.how much description of places and people for a novel&#8230;.do you give them little bits and pieces or devote one or two paragraphs to the description and then that is it&#8230;especially as it pertains to place?<br />
Also can you give me a definition of the following: &#8220;cardboard&#8221; character and &#8220;three dimensional character? I have been accused of creating the first and editors want the latter but no one has been able to tell me what exactly they are so I know to either avoid them or create them&#8230;thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/09/05/wrapping-up-on-agents-and-editors/#comment-6477</link>
		<author>Julie</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 05:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/09/05/wrapping-up-on-agents-and-editors/#comment-6477</guid>
					<description>Hmmm...how about how to write poetically in MRU format while still making things interesting? 

Building characters and finding their "voice" is also a soft spot for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230;how about how to write poetically in MRU format while still making things interesting? </p>
<p>Building characters and finding their &#8220;voice&#8221; is also a soft spot for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/09/05/wrapping-up-on-agents-and-editors/#comment-6478</link>
		<author>Kim</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 13:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/09/05/wrapping-up-on-agents-and-editors/#comment-6478</guid>
					<description>My biggest craft related problem is giving my fiction a better literary style and voice. I can work at my writing so it comes out with the finesse of an author I admire, but people still say, "I could hear you speaking through every word." Rats!

Perhaps I should stop speaking. 
Yeah, that should do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My biggest craft related problem is giving my fiction a better literary style and voice. I can work at my writing so it comes out with the finesse of an author I admire, but people still say, &#8220;I could hear you speaking through every word.&#8221; Rats!</p>
<p>Perhaps I should stop speaking.<br />
Yeah, that should do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Hannah L.</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/09/05/wrapping-up-on-agents-and-editors/#comment-6480</link>
		<author>Hannah L.</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 21:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/09/05/wrapping-up-on-agents-and-editors/#comment-6480</guid>
					<description>Dear Mr. Ingermanson,
 I would love to hear about how to introduce a set of multiple characters so that the characters are distinguishable. The family in my story is a brother and sister who have both married and have children, and now live (with their families) on the same farm. When people read my work, they say that they have trouble keeping track of all the people. But the characters are mostly together, so how does this work?

HML</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr. Ingermanson,<br />
 I would love to hear about how to introduce a set of multiple characters so that the characters are distinguishable. The family in my story is a brother and sister who have both married and have children, and now live (with their families) on the same farm. When people read my work, they say that they have trouble keeping track of all the people. But the characters are mostly together, so how does this work?</p>
<p>HML</p>
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		<title>By: Bonnie Grove</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/09/05/wrapping-up-on-agents-and-editors/#comment-6481</link>
		<author>Bonnie Grove</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 03:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/09/05/wrapping-up-on-agents-and-editors/#comment-6481</guid>
					<description>It's interesting to read what Mary said about publishing her first books in the US when she was living in France. I think the advice is good, and it's important for the publisher to see the writer visible in the US. I'm Canandian and it's pretty easy for me to jump the boarder to the US for a conference (easier than living in Europe!) but still, it's a big trip. My agent in American and she is a huge help to me, keeping my name and work visible in the US when I can't be at events. 

Interestingly, when you are Canadian it can be difficult - not because US editors don't like Canadians, they do, but Canadians are getting right ticked off with other Canadians who keep taking their talent and work across the boarder (like me!). It's a catch 22 in some ways - but in the end each person has to do what they have opportunity to do.

Just some thoughts North of the boarder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s interesting to read what Mary said about publishing her first books in the US when she was living in France. I think the advice is good, and it&#8217;s important for the publisher to see the writer visible in the US. I&#8217;m Canandian and it&#8217;s pretty easy for me to jump the boarder to the US for a conference (easier than living in Europe!) but still, it&#8217;s a big trip. My agent in American and she is a huge help to me, keeping my name and work visible in the US when I can&#8217;t be at events. </p>
<p>Interestingly, when you are Canadian it can be difficult - not because US editors don&#8217;t like Canadians, they do, but Canadians are getting right ticked off with other Canadians who keep taking their talent and work across the boarder (like me!). It&#8217;s a catch 22 in some ways - but in the end each person has to do what they have opportunity to do.</p>
<p>Just some thoughts North of the boarder.</p>
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		<title>By: Ivye</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/09/05/wrapping-up-on-agents-and-editors/#comment-6482</link>
		<author>Ivye</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 08:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I have a feeling that I'm being slightly dense here, but, much as I like the MRU theory, I sometimes have trouble applying it. It is all very well when it's tiger hunting, but how do I write, say, inner monologue into MRUs? Or dialogue, for that matter? I can't help thinking that, technically, dialogue is a series of very short connected MRUs (such as Tom saying something that motivates Dick to react with an answer that, in turn, serves as a motivation for Tom's next speech, and God help and deliver me if Harry feels a compulsion to speak up too...), but somehow I don't think this is how it is supposed to work? 
So yes, what I'd really love is some more about MRU, please?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a feeling that I&#8217;m being slightly dense here, but, much as I like the MRU theory, I sometimes have trouble applying it. It is all very well when it&#8217;s tiger hunting, but how do I write, say, inner monologue into MRUs? Or dialogue, for that matter? I can&#8217;t help thinking that, technically, dialogue is a series of very short connected MRUs (such as Tom saying something that motivates Dick to react with an answer that, in turn, serves as a motivation for Tom&#8217;s next speech, and God help and deliver me if Harry feels a compulsion to speak up too&#8230;), but somehow I don&#8217;t think this is how it is supposed to work?<br />
So yes, what I&#8217;d really love is some more about MRU, please?</p>
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		<title>By: Camille</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/09/05/wrapping-up-on-agents-and-editors/#comment-6484</link>
		<author>Camille</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 14:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I gotta vote for Mark's question too, because I'm a simultasking lunatic and can't seem to make myself go through the novel with one element in mind to look for and edit. Or is that realistic? Would you go through the manuscript with only layering in mind, then again looking for repeated words/phrases, then again for setting, subtlety, senses, then again to check for MRU and S&#38;S,? OR do it all in one sweep? Is there a method multi-pubbed authors use to accomplish all this once the novel is down?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I gotta vote for Mark&#8217;s question too, because I&#8217;m a simultasking lunatic and can&#8217;t seem to make myself go through the novel with one element in mind to look for and edit. Or is that realistic? Would you go through the manuscript with only layering in mind, then again looking for repeated words/phrases, then again for setting, subtlety, senses, then again to check for MRU and S&amp;S,? OR do it all in one sweep? Is there a method multi-pubbed authors use to accomplish all this once the novel is down?</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa Stroh</title>
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		<author>Melissa Stroh</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 16:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/09/05/wrapping-up-on-agents-and-editors/#comment-6485</guid>
					<description>I'm indecisive. I like Mary's idea about backstory, but I also really like what Mark and Camille have to say. I'm not afraid to tackle editing at all, but it's far too easy to get caught up in several aspects of it and miss others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m indecisive. I like Mary&#8217;s idea about backstory, but I also really like what Mark and Camille have to say. I&#8217;m not afraid to tackle editing at all, but it&#8217;s far too easy to get caught up in several aspects of it and miss others.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristi Holl</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/09/05/wrapping-up-on-agents-and-editors/#comment-6486</link>
		<author>Kristi Holl</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 19:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I think the biggest craft related problem I have is voice. I taught writing for 22 years (taught it the way I was taught with lots of rules--many of them great.) But now I feel as if I need to unlearn a few of the rules that turn my individual voice into Ms. Bland. Is it a matter of having sufficient confidence in your own voice? I have a couple of great books on the subject, but it's still a struggle sometimes.
&lt;a href="http://kristiholl.com/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Kristi Holl&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href="http://writers-first-aid.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Writer's First Aid&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the biggest craft related problem I have is voice. I taught writing for 22 years (taught it the way I was taught with lots of rules&#8211;many of them great.) But now I feel as if I need to unlearn a few of the rules that turn my individual voice into Ms. Bland. Is it a matter of having sufficient confidence in your own voice? I have a couple of great books on the subject, but it&#8217;s still a struggle sometimes.<br />
<a href="http://kristiholl.com/" rel="nofollow">Kristi Holl</a><br />
<a href="http://writers-first-aid.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Writer&#8217;s First Aid</a></p>
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		<title>By: Lynda</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/09/05/wrapping-up-on-agents-and-editors/#comment-6488</link>
		<author>Lynda</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 12:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/09/05/wrapping-up-on-agents-and-editors/#comment-6488</guid>
					<description>I'm with Marcus, Camille,and Melissa. Tips on editing would be wonderful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Marcus, Camille,and Melissa. Tips on editing would be wonderful.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<author>Tim</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I would like to explore writing style from outlining to write as you go. The styles are so vast and different that unless you know your style it is hard to write. I know I am an outliner. Also, possible ways to get motivated to work, because I have ideas for other projects and because of how detailed my style is I have yet to start on them since I lack the motivation.

Tim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to explore writing style from outlining to write as you go. The styles are so vast and different that unless you know your style it is hard to write. I know I am an outliner. Also, possible ways to get motivated to work, because I have ideas for other projects and because of how detailed my style is I have yet to start on them since I lack the motivation.</p>
<p>Tim</p>
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		<title>By: The Wannabe Scribe</title>
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		<author>The Wannabe Scribe</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 18:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/09/05/wrapping-up-on-agents-and-editors/#comment-6501</guid>
					<description>I vote MRU's!

Thanks :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I vote MRU&#8217;s!</p>
<p>Thanks <img src='http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: The Wannabe Scribe</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/09/05/wrapping-up-on-agents-and-editors/#comment-6502</link>
		<author>The Wannabe Scribe</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 18:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/09/05/wrapping-up-on-agents-and-editors/#comment-6502</guid>
					<description>Did ya spot my intentional mistake? No neither did I until I clicked the submit button.  For those with brains that auto-correct typos I had a rogue apostrophe.

Sorry folks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did ya spot my intentional mistake? No neither did I until I clicked the submit button.  For those with brains that auto-correct typos I had a rogue apostrophe.</p>
<p>Sorry folks!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Anderson</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/09/05/wrapping-up-on-agents-and-editors/#comment-6526</link>
		<author>Mark Anderson</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 07:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/09/05/wrapping-up-on-agents-and-editors/#comment-6526</guid>
					<description>I'm not published yet so take my advice with a grain of salt. After several years of banging my head against a brick wall, I finally succumbed to a literary agent. And while I don't have my words in print yet, at least doors have started to open. Positive feedback has started to flow. I'd recommend against being your own agent, at least until you have the publishing contacts to actually make things happen. Because really, that's how the agent makes their services worthwhile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not published yet so take my advice with a grain of salt. After several years of banging my head against a brick wall, I finally succumbed to a literary agent. And while I don&#8217;t have my words in print yet, at least doors have started to open. Positive feedback has started to flow. I&#8217;d recommend against being your own agent, at least until you have the publishing contacts to actually make things happen. Because really, that&#8217;s how the agent makes their services worthwhile.</p>
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