Comments on: Let’s Talk About MRUs

By: Iain M Norman

Iain M Norman — Wed, 28 May 2008 09:18:13 +0000

Design Patterns! Get in touch with your inner geek. *grins*

I am.

By: Nicola Marsh

Nicola Marsh — Wed, 28 May 2008 10:23:47 +0000

Really looking forward to the discussion on MRUs, Randy (I only recently heard of them through Margie Lawson’s ‘Deep Editing’ course.)

With your reference to ‘formula romances’ not sure if you’re referring to category romance? (eg. the many series of Harlequin Mills and Boon) I’m a romance novelist who writes for 2 of these series, Harlequin Romance and Harlequin Modern Heat/Presents and while there are guidelines (eg. in regards to word count and the type of characters and locations preferred) there is no formula as to when the characters must meet, by what page or any other such restrictions.

I think the guidelines have been mistaken for ‘formula’?

By: Karla Akins

Karla Akins — Wed, 28 May 2008 12:40:02 +0000

Can an MRU last an entire chapter?

And Randy, do you “twitter?” (twitter.com) If so, I’d like to follow you. I’m selahdream.

By: Lois Hudson

Lois Hudson — Wed, 28 May 2008 13:06:28 +0000

It’s neat when a fundamental is applicable “outside the lines” or the box, or whatever else shuts you in creatively.
As a former music teacher I urged, but didn’t demand, learning the fundamentals, then allowed breaking all the rules which gave students the incentive to actually enjoy the process. Works with cooking, too. Learn the recipe first, then do any experimentation you’re brave enough to try. So I’m off to hie meself to Randy’s WPS to learn more about MRUs.

By: Daan Van der Merwe

Daan Van der Merwe — Wed, 28 May 2008 14:54:26 +0000

Thank you very much for this topic Randy. As you undoubtedly know, I was sold on MRU’s since the first time I’ve read HOW TO WRITE THE PERFECT SCENE 10 months ago.

I’m leaving Canada for South Africa this evening with a 20 hour stop over in Amsterdam Holland and will be back in South Africa on Friday 1pm. pacific time. Catch ya then!!

By: Gina

Gina — Wed, 28 May 2008 14:55:03 +0000

I’m looking forward to this teaching. After hearing it several times, I’m just beginning to grasp and use it in my writing

By: Lois Hudson

Lois Hudson — Wed, 28 May 2008 15:20:45 +0000

Safe trip, Daan!

By: D.E. Hale

D.E. Hale — Wed, 28 May 2008 16:23:36 +0000

Yes, MRU’s again! You would think that as long as I’ve been using this technique that I’d have it down by now, but that’s not the case. My biggest problems occur when my MC is by himself - say, for instance, in a prison cell. Now, he doesn’t stay alone for long at any point, but while he’s alone I have trouble figuring out how to do those darn MRU’s.

I can’t figure out what the Motivations are, or if there are any. The MC is doing all the action (trying to pry open the shackles, pacing, whatever) so is that a “kind” of Motivation, or is everything he’s doing Reaction.

Anyway, I look forward to this. Never hurts to go back over the MRU’s - they are so very useful, and have transformed my writing.

By: Pam Halter

Pam Halter — Wed, 28 May 2008 16:34:28 +0000

Godspeed, Daan!

I don’t see how using MRUs can be labeled formulaic since life is full of motivation and our reactions to it. It makes your characters real.

By: Tonya Root

Tonya Root — Wed, 28 May 2008 16:49:53 +0000

I have just begun reading your blog over the last couple of weeks and have already learned so very much. I am definitely looking forward to this discussion and believe it will help my fiction tremendously. Thanks!

By: Carla Stewart

Carla Stewart — Wed, 28 May 2008 17:25:51 +0000

Thanks for revisiting this topic, Randy. Perhaps if I study it once again and apply it to my writing, it will become more intuitive for me. I’ve already read your Perfect Scene article again. I must say, you boil it all down better than Swain, whose book I keep within reach at all times. I’ve jotted it all on a card so it’s a visible reminder when I’m writing.

One question: I’ve just ended a chapter with the protag looking into the barrel of a gun. Is it okay to have the Motivation end there and pick back up with the Reaction at the beginning of the next chapter?

By: Barb Haley

Barb Haley — Wed, 28 May 2008 17:55:09 +0000

I like the idea of writing with MRU’s. Since I first learned of this method, I’ve wanted to try it, but was always in the middle of a book I had already had going.

I’m excited, because I’m currently researching my next book and can try using the snowflake method from the very beginning. Whoo Hoo!

By: Jim

Jim — Wed, 28 May 2008 18:04:56 +0000

Ain’t semantics a b****? In ten words or less, how would you differentiate “pattern” from “structure,” or either from “process?” The infamous Snowflake Method could be both “structure” and “process,” while MRUs could be “structure” or “pattern.”

Actually, your answer might be just two words: “Get lost!”

By: Gerhi Janse van Vuuren

Gerhi Janse van Vuuren — Wed, 28 May 2008 19:44:38 +0000

I’d be glad to learn more about MRU’s. I find them tremendously useful. I am writing a rough draft at the moment and I can hear my internal dialogue: “There’s a nice motivation!”, “Good response!”, “Will have to fix the URM order here in the rewrite!”.

But it is only because I wrote a number of scenes bit by bit. What I do is copy the MRU list at the bottom of the scene so I keep it in sight. This is my list:

+Motivation
+Reaction Feeling
+Reaction Reflex
+Reaction Rational Action and Speech

Above it I then write the scene and as I write I mentally ticking every step of as I do it. And then I rinse and repeat, rinse and repeat.

In my mind the MRU concept has been the most valuable piece of practical writing advice I have ever heard of.

By: Peppi

Peppi — Wed, 28 May 2008 21:08:02 +0000

This will be exciting. Since I’ve read HOW TO WRITE THE PERFECT SCENE, I’ve worked hard at applying MRU’s to my writing. Like D.E. Hale stated, I too find it difficult to uncover the motivation at certain points in a scene.

The MRU definitely puts you in the heat of the moment living every bit of the action with the character of focus. It definitely helped me break away from my natural (and un-exciting) method of narrative summary.

Now, if only we could put printed MRU examples in fortune cookies…

By: Parker Haynes

Parker Haynes — Wed, 28 May 2008 21:14:10 +0000

Looking forward to these lessons on MRU’s and hoping to learn more. I understand and appreciate the concept, but being a hard-core “fly by the seat of the pants” writer, I stumble over actually incorporating it into my work.

By: Camille

Camille — Wed, 28 May 2008 23:37:17 +0000

Got samples? Some of us (me) are mentally challenged and need an example.

I try to keep Motivation and Reaction alternating as I write—when it occurs to me—but I can’t always focus on it and the 29 other things in mind as I’m creating a scene. Do you lay down the groundwork for a scene then come back and arrange the Ms & Rs? Sometimes it’s hard to keep the R out of the same paragraph as the M.

Do you think the bolded line below is a reaction? Does it need a new paragraph? I think it would draw too much attention to it, and it doesn’t seem right as part of the next line.

What about the last paragraph? It’s both m & r, isn’t it? Wouldn’t it be weird to break it apart?

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Iain rose and walked among the stones. Crouching down, he picked up a rock and stared at the jagged edges. He squeezed until it dug in, sending sharp, stabbing pain through his hand.

Most of the grave stones around him were inscribed with names and dates. Each marked the length of a life. Some long, some brief. Perhaps God hoards the best ones for himself.

“Is that it then? Are you a pathetic, selfish old man?”

Iain stood and waited. He didn’t really expect an answer, and he didn’t get one. Nothing but a quiet breeze carrying cheery twitters and the sharp, blooming smells of summer.

“Right then.” He stood. “I’m finished here.”

Iain turned and stalked back through the cemetery toward the trail. But a surge of adrenaline seized him and he spun back around, rock in hand. With a grunt, he hurled it as hard as he could. It hit the side of the silent old church with a decisive smack. The sound echoed through the churchyard, briefly silencing the bird song. Blind fury drove Iain up the darkening trail and back through the woods.

By: Brian T. Carroll

Brian T. Carroll — Thu, 29 May 2008 04:07:38 +0000

I’ve come to the conclusion that my own rebellion against the “formula” of scenes is more in the large-scare scene/sequel than with the small-scale MRU. I just reread chapter 1 of TO KILL A MOCKING BIRD, looking for the MRU’s, and I do see them. What I don’t see is the Scene/Sequel structure. If anything, the book is starting with a sequel, not to a moment of disaster, but to the whole history of Maycomb, Alabama, going back to the ancestors who weren’t in the Battle of Hastings. I find a similar pattern in books like PEACE LIKE A RIVER, GILEAD, and THEIR EYES WERE WATCHING GOD. In fact, I think I would find it in most of the books I choose to read, and ALL of the books I’d take the time to read twice. This may get to the core of the Literary/Genre dichotomy. A rapid cycle of Goal/Conflict/Disaster has no appeal for me. I want time to savor the Reaction/Dilemma/Decision cycle, and then, if a couple of disasters come along later in the book, I’m fine with that. And the MRU’s can be very subtile things. In TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD, the first real MRU is on page 7, Jem and Scout meet Dill and are motivated to test him out and establish a pecking order. He’s seen the movie Dracula, and can repeat the story. They react by accepting him as a playmate. That’s all there is to it.

By: Suzanne

Suzanne — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 04:54:36 +0000

The question asked was: The use of MRUs seems logical to me. However, I have been told they are formulaic and not to use them. What’s a newbie to think?

My advice? TRY IT! Try it on your own work and you’ll see what a difference it makes. When I first read about MRU’s, I thought such a simple concept couldn’t possibly make a big difference. So I tried it on a small section of a chapter I was having trouble with. I couldn’t believe the difference it made! Then I applied it to a whole section, submitted it to my critique group, and they agreed it was much better.

I can’t say enough about MRU’s. Learning and applying this technique has literally transformed my writing.
Suzanne :O)