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		<title>By: Sharon Lavy</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/02/29/nonfiction-youre-reading/#comment-4338</link>
		<author>Sharon Lavy</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 14:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Maybe you should sign up to be an instructor for Mistique. The line editing service is reasonable.

Blessings~~ Sharon</description>
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<p>Blessings~~ Sharon</p>
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		<title>By: bonne friesen</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/02/29/nonfiction-youre-reading/#comment-4339</link>
		<author>bonne friesen</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 16:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I can understand the love/hate thing with Swain. 

People usually know when they aren't doing their very best, and usually hate to have that pointed out.  Swain points out myriad ways to do it better, in an authoritarian way. I can see where that rankles.  The response to conviction is either humility or anger. 

I'm so glad I persevered through it.  Swain's tools are making the creative side easier, and uncovering my potential rather than obscuring my personal expression.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can understand the love/hate thing with Swain. </p>
<p>People usually know when they aren&#8217;t doing their very best, and usually hate to have that pointed out.  Swain points out myriad ways to do it better, in an authoritarian way. I can see where that rankles.  The response to conviction is either humility or anger. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m so glad I persevered through it.  Swain&#8217;s tools are making the creative side easier, and uncovering my potential rather than obscuring my personal expression.</p>
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		<title>By: April D.</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/02/29/nonfiction-youre-reading/#comment-4340</link>
		<author>April D.</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 19:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I just finished reading an advance copy of The Translator a Tribesman's Memoir of Darfur, by Daoud Hari, coming out March 18 from Random House. (There's a review of it on my blog.)

Hari's book was a wake-up call to me on many levels: humanitarian; count-my-blessings; and as a writer - because it was proof that writing doesn't have to be lengthy, sophisticated or complex to resonate across cultural and geographical boundaries to influence readers.

I'm loving the comments on books about writing - you all are inspiring to take up pen (er - keyboard) again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just finished reading an advance copy of The Translator a Tribesman&#8217;s Memoir of Darfur, by Daoud Hari, coming out March 18 from Random House. (There&#8217;s a review of it on my blog.)</p>
<p>Hari&#8217;s book was a wake-up call to me on many levels: humanitarian; count-my-blessings; and as a writer - because it was proof that writing doesn&#8217;t have to be lengthy, sophisticated or complex to resonate across cultural and geographical boundaries to influence readers.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m loving the comments on books about writing - you all are inspiring to take up pen (er - keyboard) again.</p>
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		<title>By: PatriciaW</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/02/29/nonfiction-youre-reading/#comment-4341</link>
		<author>PatriciaW</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 21:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'm reading Gail Gaymer Martin's Writing the Christian Romance.  That and my weekly Sports Illustrated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m reading Gail Gaymer Martin&#8217;s Writing the Christian Romance.  That and my weekly Sports Illustrated.</p>
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		<title>By: Donald L. Moir</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/02/29/nonfiction-youre-reading/#comment-4343</link>
		<author>Donald L. Moir</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 01:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>"The Black Swan", by N. N. Taleb. A discussion / meditation about our blindness to certain kinds of risk. It's not a book about writing -- he has a financial markets background -- but he shows why success as a writer, and much of what we face in the modern world, is part of living in the country of Extremistan and not Mediocristan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Black Swan&#8221;, by N. N. Taleb. A discussion / meditation about our blindness to certain kinds of risk. It&#8217;s not a book about writing &#8212; he has a financial markets background &#8212; but he shows why success as a writer, and much of what we face in the modern world, is part of living in the country of Extremistan and not Mediocristan.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen D'Amato</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/02/29/nonfiction-youre-reading/#comment-4348</link>
		<author>Karen D'Amato</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 22:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>"Story" by McKee, he's the master.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Story&#8221; by McKee, he&#8217;s the master.</p>
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		<title>By: Teresa Haugh</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/02/29/nonfiction-youre-reading/#comment-4349</link>
		<author>Teresa Haugh</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 00:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>"Blink" and "The Tipping Point" by Malcolm Gladwell. Very interesting reading about human nature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Blink&#8221; and &#8220;The Tipping Point&#8221; by Malcolm Gladwell. Very interesting reading about human nature.</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/02/29/nonfiction-youre-reading/#comment-4350</link>
		<author>Anna</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 03:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hi!
As you know, I am writing a fantasy book. I have been surfing the internet and I have bugged all kinds of people about how to get a book published. Could you give me a few pointers? Do you think it is better to write the whole book and then send it to publishing companies or write a few sample chapters and then send it to publishing companies? It's a fantasy, so if you know of any publishing companies that are interested in that genre and accept aspiring writers, it would be great if you could tell me which ones. I have never published a book before, so I need lots of good advice! Sorry, I know that this has nothing to do with the topic you're discussing, but I had to ask. 
Anna</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi!<br />
As you know, I am writing a fantasy book. I have been surfing the internet and I have bugged all kinds of people about how to get a book published. Could you give me a few pointers? Do you think it is better to write the whole book and then send it to publishing companies or write a few sample chapters and then send it to publishing companies? It&#8217;s a fantasy, so if you know of any publishing companies that are interested in that genre and accept aspiring writers, it would be great if you could tell me which ones. I have never published a book before, so I need lots of good advice! Sorry, I know that this has nothing to do with the topic you&#8217;re discussing, but I had to ask.<br />
Anna</p>
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		<title>By: sesgaia</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/02/29/nonfiction-youre-reading/#comment-4351</link>
		<author>sesgaia</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 03:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'm reading: The Killer Dolphin by Nagaio Marsh for fun (re-reading it actually, for the umpteenth time); Menopause with Science and Soul by Judith Boice for my health- the New Yorker for my intellect, and re-reading Letters to Malcolm by C.S. Lewis for my spirit. I bounce back and forth-finding it difficult as I write my novel to get fully absorbed into any particular piece of writing for too long- my mind is always racing underneath. And any fiction in the same genre as my novel completely throws me off, so non-fiction is better right now. Did y'all read the pro-con articles in the latest Writer Magazine about reading similar works to your own while you write? I'm heavily on the "don't" side of the argument- I find it too distracting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m reading: The Killer Dolphin by Nagaio Marsh for fun (re-reading it actually, for the umpteenth time); Menopause with Science and Soul by Judith Boice for my health- the New Yorker for my intellect, and re-reading Letters to Malcolm by C.S. Lewis for my spirit. I bounce back and forth-finding it difficult as I write my novel to get fully absorbed into any particular piece of writing for too long- my mind is always racing underneath. And any fiction in the same genre as my novel completely throws me off, so non-fiction is better right now. Did y&#8217;all read the pro-con articles in the latest Writer Magazine about reading similar works to your own while you write? I&#8217;m heavily on the &#8220;don&#8217;t&#8221; side of the argument- I find it too distracting.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Henderson-Sharon</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/02/29/nonfiction-youre-reading/#comment-4353</link>
		<author>Sarah Henderson-Sharon</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 09:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'm reading 'Cleansing the Doors of Perception' by Huston Smith.  It's about the religious significance of Entheogenic plants.  I'm reading it because I like hallucinogens and I'm interested in their cultural/religious history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m reading &#8216;Cleansing the Doors of Perception&#8217; by Huston Smith.  It&#8217;s about the religious significance of Entheogenic plants.  I&#8217;m reading it because I like hallucinogens and I&#8217;m interested in their cultural/religious history.</p>
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		<title>By: Tiffany Shaw</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/02/29/nonfiction-youre-reading/#comment-4356</link>
		<author>Tiffany Shaw</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'm also reading Swain and getting a ton out of it.  I've been underlining every other sentence.

I think the love/hate has to do with a couple of factors.  Certainly having someone point out your weaknesses and tell you not to do them is hard, especially when since his examples are so shallow.  I keep finding myself wishing he'd include a couple examples of a slightly deeper mold just so I can see clearly how to adapt what he's saying to a more subtle lit fict level.

Also, when you're looking at fiction from an intellectual or literary fiction standpoint, it can rankle to have someone say "Story about ideas is boring," and "People read for excitement, not intellectual stimulation."  I agree with Swain, to a certain extent, though I'm positive I wouldn't have agreed when I was studying English Lit and creative writing in college, and was wholeheartedly embarrassed by my addiction to pulp fantasy.  Still, every time he makes a blanket statement like that, I find myself thinking of all the exceptions (one of my friends, for instance, who likes to unwind by reading some Kant or Plato or Hegel).

As I read Swain, I keep thinking about Milan Kundera.  Kundera seems to break all Swain's guidelines, and is absolutely, stunningly amazing to read, gently probing his characters into revealing the qualities of humanity that he wants to explore.  I want to go back through The Unbearable Lightness of Being and see to what extent Kundera uses MRUs, scenes and sequels, and Swain's story structure, because I'm sure they're there, just subtly.

When I finish Swain, hopefully sometime this week, I'm planning on reading a book on rock climbing theory, since my ankle is in recovery from some strained ligaments and I can't climb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m also reading Swain and getting a ton out of it.  I&#8217;ve been underlining every other sentence.</p>
<p>I think the love/hate has to do with a couple of factors.  Certainly having someone point out your weaknesses and tell you not to do them is hard, especially when since his examples are so shallow.  I keep finding myself wishing he&#8217;d include a couple examples of a slightly deeper mold just so I can see clearly how to adapt what he&#8217;s saying to a more subtle lit fict level.</p>
<p>Also, when you&#8217;re looking at fiction from an intellectual or literary fiction standpoint, it can rankle to have someone say &#8220;Story about ideas is boring,&#8221; and &#8220;People read for excitement, not intellectual stimulation.&#8221;  I agree with Swain, to a certain extent, though I&#8217;m positive I wouldn&#8217;t have agreed when I was studying English Lit and creative writing in college, and was wholeheartedly embarrassed by my addiction to pulp fantasy.  Still, every time he makes a blanket statement like that, I find myself thinking of all the exceptions (one of my friends, for instance, who likes to unwind by reading some Kant or Plato or Hegel).</p>
<p>As I read Swain, I keep thinking about Milan Kundera.  Kundera seems to break all Swain&#8217;s guidelines, and is absolutely, stunningly amazing to read, gently probing his characters into revealing the qualities of humanity that he wants to explore.  I want to go back through The Unbearable Lightness of Being and see to what extent Kundera uses MRUs, scenes and sequels, and Swain&#8217;s story structure, because I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;re there, just subtly.</p>
<p>When I finish Swain, hopefully sometime this week, I&#8217;m planning on reading a book on rock climbing theory, since my ankle is in recovery from some strained ligaments and I can&#8217;t climb.</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa Stroh</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/02/29/nonfiction-youre-reading/#comment-4357</link>
		<author>Melissa Stroh</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 17:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Yeah Randy, you're definately right about writer's and their research.  My husband thinks that I must be one of the foremost minds in 10th Century Irish History because of all the research I put into it.  But I can't help what I love.  Plus I'm one of those worry worts whose always got to cross reference everything to make sure I get my facts straight.  As a historical fiction writer, how much research should be put into your book?  I was told by one author in that genre that you should have at least three different sources that agree on a given topic before you put it down as fact.  That seems to be an aweful lot of sources to me!  Especially considering all of the facts you have to verify!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah Randy, you&#8217;re definately right about writer&#8217;s and their research.  My husband thinks that I must be one of the foremost minds in 10th Century Irish History because of all the research I put into it.  But I can&#8217;t help what I love.  Plus I&#8217;m one of those worry worts whose always got to cross reference everything to make sure I get my facts straight.  As a historical fiction writer, how much research should be put into your book?  I was told by one author in that genre that you should have at least three different sources that agree on a given topic before you put it down as fact.  That seems to be an aweful lot of sources to me!  Especially considering all of the facts you have to verify!</p>
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		<title>By: Andie Mock</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/02/29/nonfiction-youre-reading/#comment-4359</link>
		<author>Andie Mock</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 02:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I recently stopped reading a bio of Einstein - a very poorly written one. Sad. 

Also, I'm glued to several political blogs blathering over the Demo primary. What an exciting narrative. You can't make this stuff up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently stopped reading a bio of Einstein - a very poorly written one. Sad. </p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;m glued to several political blogs blathering over the Demo primary. What an exciting narrative. You can&#8217;t make this stuff up.</p>
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		<title>By: Cate</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/02/29/nonfiction-youre-reading/#comment-4360</link>
		<author>Cate</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 07:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'm reading: God Emperor of Dune by Frank Herbert (Fic) and The History of Physics by Isaac Asimov (NF). Guess what I write? 

On reading books similar to what I'm writing--I honestly can't help it. The only books I like are the ones that have similar qualities to the one I'm writing. What I find harder, actually, is watching shows and movies that are too close to what I'm writing. Or watching anything, period, and then sitting down to write. The characters superimpose themselves over my characters and it takes me awhile to weed them out. 

I'd have to say I'm not a Swain fan. Pure and simply, I can't edit into MRUs and keep my writerly sanity. (I tried)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m reading: God Emperor of Dune by Frank Herbert (Fic) and The History of Physics by Isaac Asimov (NF). Guess what I write? </p>
<p>On reading books similar to what I&#8217;m writing&#8211;I honestly can&#8217;t help it. The only books I like are the ones that have similar qualities to the one I&#8217;m writing. What I find harder, actually, is watching shows and movies that are too close to what I&#8217;m writing. Or watching anything, period, and then sitting down to write. The characters superimpose themselves over my characters and it takes me awhile to weed them out. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d have to say I&#8217;m not a Swain fan. Pure and simply, I can&#8217;t edit into MRUs and keep my writerly sanity. (I tried)</p>
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		<title>By: Charlotte Babb</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/02/29/nonfiction-youre-reading/#comment-4387</link>
		<author>Charlotte Babb</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 02:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'm reading Camtasia 4, and Aiming at Amazon...not very intellectual, but very handy! And lots of other folks' blogs.  How much of that is fiction, I cant' tell for sure. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m reading Camtasia 4, and Aiming at Amazon&#8230;not very intellectual, but very handy! And lots of other folks&#8217; blogs.  How much of that is fiction, I cant&#8217; tell for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann Isik</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2008/02/29/nonfiction-youre-reading/#comment-4425</link>
		<author>Ann Isik</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I sneaked in a non-fiction book I'm reading in the 'What fiction are you reading right now?' question. It's Deepak Chopra's 'The Third Jesus'.  I'm also reading the Book of Job - and I think I've recently met the descendents of his three 'comforters'!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sneaked in a non-fiction book I&#8217;m reading in the &#8216;What fiction are you reading right now?&#8217; question. It&#8217;s Deepak Chopra&#8217;s &#8216;The Third Jesus&#8217;.  I&#8217;m also reading the Book of Job - and I think I&#8217;ve recently met the descendents of his three &#8216;comforters&#8217;!</p>
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