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	<title>Comments on: Basic Novel Draft Management</title>
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	<description>America's Mad Professor of Fiction Writing</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 15:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Vennessa</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2007/08/16/basic-novel-draft-management/#comment-1936</link>
		<author>Vennessa</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 08:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I tend to be just as cautious. I have data multiply backed up in various places - two computers, CD, USB drive, online storage. You can't be over cautious in my mind. I don't always carry a back up copy on me, but maybe I will start. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tend to be just as cautious. I have data multiply backed up in various places - two computers, CD, USB drive, online storage. You can&#8217;t be over cautious in my mind. I don&#8217;t always carry a back up copy on me, but maybe I will start. <img src='http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: mickstupp</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2007/08/16/basic-novel-draft-management/#comment-1937</link>
		<author>mickstupp</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 08:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I also put a copy into a passworded .rar or .zip file and mail it to my gmail account. That way if my pc, mp3 player, and backup cds magically die... the book still exists somewhere.
Can't be too careful in my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also put a copy into a passworded .rar or .zip file and mail it to my gmail account. That way if my pc, mp3 player, and backup cds magically die&#8230; the book still exists somewhere.<br />
Can&#8217;t be too careful in my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: yeggy</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2007/08/16/basic-novel-draft-management/#comment-1940</link>
		<author>yeggy</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 10:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I have my latest stuff on a USB stick and carry it with me when I go away. Hadn't thought about the gmail account. :-( I know I've lost one book which was on 3 1/4 disk. I do need to tidy up and back up all my stuff. These are great ideas. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have my latest stuff on a USB stick and carry it with me when I go away. Hadn&#8217;t thought about the gmail account. <img src='http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> I know I&#8217;ve lost one book which was on 3 1/4 disk. I do need to tidy up and back up all my stuff. These are great ideas. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2007/08/16/basic-novel-draft-management/#comment-1941</link>
		<author>Brian</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 11:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I use a free MS program called "Foldershare" that automatically backs up my "Books" folder to different computers. It always keeps the latest version of the files there, so I can work on it at my laptop, then get home and continue on my desktop without swapping files around (as long as I have an internet connection). This allows me to have backups on multiple computers at different sites. Yes, I'm seconding mickstupp..."Can't be too careful..."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use a free MS program called &#8220;Foldershare&#8221; that automatically backs up my &#8220;Books&#8221; folder to different computers. It always keeps the latest version of the files there, so I can work on it at my laptop, then get home and continue on my desktop without swapping files around (as long as I have an internet connection). This allows me to have backups on multiple computers at different sites. Yes, I&#8217;m seconding mickstupp&#8230;&#8221;Can&#8217;t be too careful&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Grace Bridges</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2007/08/16/basic-novel-draft-management/#comment-1942</link>
		<author>Grace Bridges</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 12:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2007/08/16/basic-novel-draft-management/#comment-1942</guid>
					<description>That sounds like a good system. All I did up till now was get confused - mainly from having all the drafts in the same folder. Your idea with the numbered draft folders is really great... might have to try that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That sounds like a good system. All I did up till now was get confused - mainly from having all the drafts in the same folder. Your idea with the numbered draft folders is really great&#8230; might have to try that!</p>
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		<title>By: Lynda</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2007/08/16/basic-novel-draft-management/#comment-1943</link>
		<author>Lynda</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 12:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2007/08/16/basic-novel-draft-management/#comment-1943</guid>
					<description>You say that you "bought back" your out of print book from the publisher. When a book is published does it then belong to the publishing house forever or just while it is in print?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You say that you &#8220;bought back&#8221; your out of print book from the publisher. When a book is published does it then belong to the publishing house forever or just while it is in print?</p>
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		<title>By: Story Hack (Bryce Beattie)</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2007/08/16/basic-novel-draft-management/#comment-1944</link>
		<author>Story Hack (Bryce Beattie)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 13:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2007/08/16/basic-novel-draft-management/#comment-1944</guid>
					<description>That sound like a pretty simple and workable storage system.

Does anyone here use any sort of central archive that has descriptions or notes about all of your works? Something that might let you search by text or description? I tend to forget where I put stuff (Even when I'm organized), so some kind of searchable database  would be great.

This, by the way, is why I love gmail so much. just archive it, and do a search for it. No more delving through folders to see where I put stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That sound like a pretty simple and workable storage system.</p>
<p>Does anyone here use any sort of central archive that has descriptions or notes about all of your works? Something that might let you search by text or description? I tend to forget where I put stuff (Even when I&#8217;m organized), so some kind of searchable database  would be great.</p>
<p>This, by the way, is why I love gmail so much. just archive it, and do a search for it. No more delving through folders to see where I put stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Donna</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2007/08/16/basic-novel-draft-management/#comment-1945</link>
		<author>Donna</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2007/08/16/basic-novel-draft-management/#comment-1945</guid>
					<description>Sounds like I have some major restructuring of my files to do. Not just for things I write but for other projects as well.

I use a novel writing program to do longer pieces in, short stories and poems are done in Word. I guess this is why I hadn't thought of keeping separate drafts. The longer pieces I keep on a flash drive so I can work on them on either my desktop or laptop. Finished projects I also keep a hard copy of, but not the drafts. 

My documents folder is a mess. Parts of it are fairly organized, to a point. I do an official fansite for a Canadian actor and have folders for images and files he sends and separate source files for the images I use on the site, the actual site files for it as well as images and page files for the other more personal sites I do. I also do image work for family and a few friends, photo jobs I've done for people, ones they've sent for me to look over, and stories and pieces others have sent for me to proofread. Then there are things my kids have had me do.

Needless to say that over the years my documents has accumulated many things, a good share I neglect to backup and boot myself in the keester whenever I have computer problems. I guess I need to take the time and become an organizing freak, especially now that I'm working on serious projects.

Thanks Randy! Any volunteers to come and dig through all my media for me??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like I have some major restructuring of my files to do. Not just for things I write but for other projects as well.</p>
<p>I use a novel writing program to do longer pieces in, short stories and poems are done in Word. I guess this is why I hadn&#8217;t thought of keeping separate drafts. The longer pieces I keep on a flash drive so I can work on them on either my desktop or laptop. Finished projects I also keep a hard copy of, but not the drafts. </p>
<p>My documents folder is a mess. Parts of it are fairly organized, to a point. I do an official fansite for a Canadian actor and have folders for images and files he sends and separate source files for the images I use on the site, the actual site files for it as well as images and page files for the other more personal sites I do. I also do image work for family and a few friends, photo jobs I&#8217;ve done for people, ones they&#8217;ve sent for me to look over, and stories and pieces others have sent for me to proofread. Then there are things my kids have had me do.</p>
<p>Needless to say that over the years my documents has accumulated many things, a good share I neglect to backup and boot myself in the keester whenever I have computer problems. I guess I need to take the time and become an organizing freak, especially now that I&#8217;m working on serious projects.</p>
<p>Thanks Randy! Any volunteers to come and dig through all my media for me??</p>
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		<title>By: Paul D</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2007/08/16/basic-novel-draft-management/#comment-1946</link>
		<author>Paul D</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2007/08/16/basic-novel-draft-management/#comment-1946</guid>
					<description>I've got a USB drive that's in my pocket anytime I leave the house with all my latest important data on it. I also use my gmail drafts folder to backup things and I have a second USB drive that stays at my place of employment.

Oh yeah - all data on the USB drives are Zipped with password protection and 256 bit encryption.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got a USB drive that&#8217;s in my pocket anytime I leave the house with all my latest important data on it. I also use my gmail drafts folder to backup things and I have a second USB drive that stays at my place of employment.</p>
<p>Oh yeah - all data on the USB drives are Zipped with password protection and 256 bit encryption.</p>
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		<title>By: ML Eqatin</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2007/08/16/basic-novel-draft-management/#comment-1947</link>
		<author>ML Eqatin</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 20:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2007/08/16/basic-novel-draft-management/#comment-1947</guid>
					<description>Wow, I am seriously at risk. Which is amazing, when you consider that 1. I am married to a computer geek; and 2. Our house has already burned down once. But that was 20 years ago...
Time to nag the spouse about online backup. I'm sure his stuff is all protected from his work addresses.

Double Vision is out of print already? I thought Tyndale just archived everything with Lightning Source. Or was that Zondervan?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I am seriously at risk. Which is amazing, when you consider that 1. I am married to a computer geek; and 2. Our house has already burned down once. But that was 20 years ago&#8230;<br />
Time to nag the spouse about online backup. I&#8217;m sure his stuff is all protected from his work addresses.</p>
<p>Double Vision is out of print already? I thought Tyndale just archived everything with Lightning Source. Or was that Zondervan?</p>
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		<title>By: Karri</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2007/08/16/basic-novel-draft-management/#comment-1950</link>
		<author>Karri</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 01:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2007/08/16/basic-novel-draft-management/#comment-1950</guid>
					<description>Double Vision is like the best book ever. Glad I already have my copy. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Double Vision is like the best book ever. Glad I already have my copy. <img src='http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: ScottyDM</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2007/08/16/basic-novel-draft-management/#comment-1954</link>
		<author>ScottyDM</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 12:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I used to write and just delete paragraphs and whole scenes I didn't need. Then I realized I needed that stuff! Currently, I put a version number on the end of every file and before I delete anything more than a sentence I do a "save as" in my word processor and bump the version number. Everything goes in the same folder, so it can get a bit messy.

Not for writing, but in the past I've used version control systems (RCS) software, also known as source code management (SCM) software. Usually it's used for management of the myriad of files and file versions for engineering projects. It's possible to keep track of a large project consisting of hundreds or thousands of files with dozens of people working on the project. Wikipedia has a couple of fine articles: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revision_control and: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_revision_control_software

Prompted by Wiki I poked around in OpenOffice Writer (word processor) and figured out it has a mini-rev control built into the files. You can keep all your named versions of each file within that file. Only the latest is visible unless you explicitly ask for an earlier revision. It doesn't look like it can correlate a single revision set across multiple files. That Wiki article says that Microsoft Word has a similar feature.

One painful lesson I learned with the somewhat primitive RCS software we were using for a chip design project is that it doesn't really care much for binary files... such as MS Word, Excel, etc. So if you'd think you'd like to try RCS/SCM make sure the software knows you're feeding it a binary file.

Files are kept in a database called a repository and you can stick the repository anywhere--including on a remote machine. Some RCS/SCM software requires a separate server and some will run on your PC.

It might look like a specialized tool that only software developers would use, but RCS/SCM really is a general purpose tool that anyone can use. It's just that very few computer users who are not programmers even know it exists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to write and just delete paragraphs and whole scenes I didn&#8217;t need. Then I realized I needed that stuff! Currently, I put a version number on the end of every file and before I delete anything more than a sentence I do a &#8220;save as&#8221; in my word processor and bump the version number. Everything goes in the same folder, so it can get a bit messy.</p>
<p>Not for writing, but in the past I&#8217;ve used version control systems (RCS) software, also known as source code management (SCM) software. Usually it&#8217;s used for management of the myriad of files and file versions for engineering projects. It&#8217;s possible to keep track of a large project consisting of hundreds or thousands of files with dozens of people working on the project. Wikipedia has a couple of fine articles: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revision_control" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revision_control</a> and: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_revision_control_software" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_revision_control_software</a></p>
<p>Prompted by Wiki I poked around in OpenOffice Writer (word processor) and figured out it has a mini-rev control built into the files. You can keep all your named versions of each file within that file. Only the latest is visible unless you explicitly ask for an earlier revision. It doesn&#8217;t look like it can correlate a single revision set across multiple files. That Wiki article says that Microsoft Word has a similar feature.</p>
<p>One painful lesson I learned with the somewhat primitive RCS software we were using for a chip design project is that it doesn&#8217;t really care much for binary files&#8230; such as MS Word, Excel, etc. So if you&#8217;d think you&#8217;d like to try RCS/SCM make sure the software knows you&#8217;re feeding it a binary file.</p>
<p>Files are kept in a database called a repository and you can stick the repository anywhere&#8211;including on a remote machine. Some RCS/SCM software requires a separate server and some will run on your PC.</p>
<p>It might look like a specialized tool that only software developers would use, but RCS/SCM really is a general purpose tool that anyone can use. It&#8217;s just that very few computer users who are not programmers even know it exists.</p>
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		<title>By: Fiona</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/blog/2007/08/16/basic-novel-draft-management/#comment-2067</link>
		<author>Fiona</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 05:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'm glad one of your commenters mentioned security, because of course if you're walking around with your intellectual property and financial info in your pocket, you don't want it to fall into the wrong hands...
Which reminds me, I'd better do something about encrypting my flash drive, LOL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad one of your commenters mentioned security, because of course if you&#8217;re walking around with your intellectual property and financial info in your pocket, you don&#8217;t want it to fall into the wrong hands&#8230;<br />
Which reminds me, I&#8217;d better do something about encrypting my flash drive, LOL.</p>
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